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X & Y

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#1
X & Y
Figured we need an X&Y updates thread.

Please pose offical sources here. Try not to speculate and avoid fake info.










Current news says there will be character customization in the next gen along with ride-able pokemon.
It's unclear if there are multiple pokemon to ride of if there is a single pokemon, which is designated "the riding pokemon" in the article.
There also seems to be indication that more classic pokemon will receive "updates".
The region is based of France.
#2
Diagonal motion confirmed.
#3
C0FFINCASE wrote:
Diagonal motion confirmed.


Shits getting real :O

Also to contribute to the thread...
#4
Aside from the new mechanics and stuff, the Pokemon look like they're at an all time worst to me.

They look like pure cartoons.
#5
Aside from the new mechanics and stuff, the Pokemon look like they're at an all time worst to me.

They look like pure cartoons.


You mean they've lost their style? or...?
#6
Aside from the new mechanics and stuff, the Pokemon look like they're at an all time worst to me.

They look like pure cartoons.


Well you know, since they are cartoons it's sort of appropriate they look that way.
Also while I also prefer the gen one aesthetic as opposed to the direction they have gone, they went this direction a long time ago and made it their own. Which considering the plethora of monster taming games and cliches associated with them, I am impressed with pokemon and have to give them the fact that you can see a pokemon and know it's a pokemon. Gamefreak more or less reinvents their universe every game. Most monster titles add a few new monsters or a mechanic and just go on with their games forever. Pokemon basically invents a new world every game, they all exist in the same continuum ad time line and they do little cross pollination to emphasize that but otherwise: new monsters, new land, new characters, new story(though very similar), & new mechanics. The only other games series that does that that I can think of right off the bat is Final Fantasy.
I was in the same boat as you until I sat down and gave Black 2 and the "new"pokemon a real shot. Once I did I found that what I had loved about the original pokemon had been refined and improved upon. Are there some stupid crap pokemon? Yeah, but there were some in every gen. Plus the cartoon aesthetic is really not something they do with every pokemon. There are plenty that carry on with that gen one aesthetic.
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Use wrote:
Shits getting real :O

Also to contribute to the thread...


I'm looking forward to seeing how this form comes up in the game.
#10
Five new pokemon have been announced along with the new type fairy.
Sky battles are now a special battle type for flying pokemon.
Hoard encounters with packs of wild pokemon are now a thing.
Trading is much faster
Strong bond will result in more critical hits or better dodging.
Fairy exists to balance dragon.
EV & IV system will be more visible and user friendly.
Multiple Rivals.
Deeper character customization
Music will be less condensed and processed.
#11
Mewtwo's new form and other new forms have now been revealed to be "Mega Forms". A sort of special evolution that unlocks new powers and abilities for pokemon.
#12
Mewtwo can evolve now? I'm losing faith in Pokemon with each generation. What's next? Mew as a starter? Mew Evolving into a Rayquaza? Ash waking up from his coma and realizing it was all a dream?
#13
Souleater wrote:
Mewtwo can evolve now? I'm losing faith in Pokemon with each generation. What's next? Mew as a starter? Mew Evolving into a Rayquaza? Ash waking up from his coma and realizing it was all a dream?


It's not native. Mega forms require special items. It's been implied that these items won't be found in game normally.
Also Mewtwo evolving is not on par with Mew as a starter or evolving into a completely different pokemon.
#14
Souleater wrote:
Mewtwo can evolve now? I'm losing faith in Pokemon with each generation. What's next? Mew as a starter? Mew Evolving into a Rayquaza? Ash waking up from his coma and realizing it was all a dream?

what do you want them to do
just change locations?
#15
C0FFINCASE wrote:
It's not native. Mega forms require special items. It's been implied that these items won't be found in game normally.
Also Mewtwo evolving is not on par with Mew as a starter or evolving into a completely different pokemon.

Mega forms is a ridiculous idea. Why take pokemon that are already powerful, and give them another form to make them more powerful? Does Mewtwo, arguably the most powerful Pokemon ever conceived (next to Arceaus), really need another form? Why not instead of giving him a new form, give him the armor that he had from the TV show that let him focus and make his powers amplified?

The point I'm trying to make is that, though it will be difficult to find these items, people will still find them, and it won't really matter, and if you have the action replay code, you can get it anyways. If the items are given away at events and stuff like that, so it's very limited, my point is moot, but the fact still exists that some things shouldn't be changed. Mewtwo was a beast, an absolute monster in the terms of raw power and base stats. Giving him another form, or even an evolution to make him more powerful goes against what the idea behind him was. He was an experiment gone wrong that was a clone of the next most powerful pokemon, Mew. Hence my statement of Mew being a starter.

And last time I checked, having forms that you can go in and out of at will was some shit Digimon came up with a long time ago.

Use wrote:
what do you want them to do
just change locations?


I don't care if it's a new location. I'd like to see something new for once. New music. Cool. Character customization. Really cool. Adding a fairy type and giving pokemon that are already powerful an insane boost in power? Pointless. At least go back to where it all began and actually have some references to what happened in past games. Just once, I'd love to see Gary make a return with some insanely powerful pokemon, or Red to make a challenge at the Elite 4 once you beat the champion. Or even including you into the game. Once you beat the champion, you can fight the elite 4 anytime and have to take on random challengers that the game randomly creates. The Elite 4 will send you a call on pokegear saying you have a challenger or some shit. Something to make the game more inclusive and not have the same champion after you beat him 10 times already.

Adding new Pokemon? great. Adding Powerful pokemon? Great. Having like 30+ legendary pokemon that are catchable in the game? Retarded. Legendary means Legendary. Something of legend is something that is limited. Why make so many legendary pokemon? Why? Does every game need a new inclusion to the group? Why not just wipe the slate clean and have none of the old pokemon in the next game? Have them able to be traded in from compatable games, sure, but other wise never seen in the game outside of references or paintings or some shit.

And what about all of these criminal organizations in this game? What is this, Reservoir Dogs? How about a game where all of them just get sick of each other and start to rage war on one another, and stuff starts to get rough for the pokemon world and you have to team up with Red, Silver, etc to take them all on since they've beat them before.

I'd pay to play a pokemon game with all of that stuff in it. I'd gladly fork over the $50 to play some shit on that level.
#16
so you want it to "go back where it all began" but you dont want the theme of criminals to keep going, legendaries native to each new area, or new types to be added?
dark and steel weren't in the very first games
i agree with some stuff you said though
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Use wrote:
so you want it to "go back where it all began" but you dont want the theme of criminals to keep going, legendaries native to each new area, or new types to be added?
dark and steel weren't in the very first games
i agree with some stuff you said though


Well lets think of all of the original types:
Fire
Water
Grass
Flying
Normal
Ice
Psychic
Ground
Rock
Fighting
Dragon
Bug

Lets look at the new additions to generation 2:
Dark
Steel
Ice

The addition of fairy to counter act dragons, that could have been included in generation 2 or 3 already to establish the types and keep it simple, I believe they added a few other types along the road.

And I'm not saying new legendary are bad. But I don't see the point of adding multiple new ones for every game. Lets look at what we have now:
Legendary Birds:
Zapdos
Articuno
Moltres

Legendary Dogs:
Entai
Suicune
Raiku

The Weather Trio:
Kyogre
Groudon
Rayquaza

The Lake Trio:
Azelf
Mesprite
Uxie

The Lunar Duo:
Darkrai
Cresellia

The Kami Trio:
Tornadus
Thundrus
Landus

The Energy Trio:
Zekrom
Reshiram
Kyurem

L&L
Latios and Latias

The Muskateers Trio:
Cobalion
Terrakion
Virizion

The Regi Trio:
Regirock
Regiice
Registeel

The Creation Trio:
Palkia
Dialga
Giratina

Super Legendaries:
Mew
Mewtwo
Celibi
Ho-oh
Lugia
Jirachi
Deoxys
Regigigas
Shaymin
Genesect
Healtran
Keldio
Victini
Meloetta
Manaphy
Phione
Arceas

48 pokemon classified as legendary. Is it really necessary? I have nothing against new legendary pokemon, but this is a bit excessive.
#18
I think Ice might have been in Gen 1. I understand them playing with typing. In reality typing is done less for someone like you or me and more for people that play in a competitive way so we really can't comment on it much. Obviously in gen 1, psychic was OP and it was obvious to everyone.
As for legendaries I see you side of the argument but the other side is that almost every game/gen represents a unique and geographically different region of a world. While early on they kept Johto close to Kanto, we've now moved to the other side of the world. It makes sense that they have their own legendary pokemon, just as different continents have different animals and cultures have different legends. Unova was sort of America and the new game is sort of France/Europe. Kanto and Johto were Japan. They are populating a whole world.
#19
Imo mega forms seem alright, it's "different". Change is nice but true question is "hows the gameplay". The videos Ive seen were just some Japanese people playing and screaming at the screen.
#20
C0FFINCASE wrote:
I think Ice might have been in Gen 1. I understand them playing with typing. In reality typing is done less for someone like you or me and more for people that play in a competitive way so we really can't comment on it much. Obviously in gen 1, psychic was OP and it was obvious to everyone.
As for legendaries I see you side of the argument but the other side is that almost every game/gen represents a unique and geographically different region of a world. While early on they kept Johto close to Kanto, we've now moved to the other side of the world. It makes sense that they have their own legendary pokemon, just as different continents have different animals and cultures have different legends. Unova was sort of America and the new game is sort of France/Europe. Kanto and Johto were Japan. They are populating a whole world.



Then they had really better be building to something epic. Like a full world game challenging like....a world champion where you have to fight all of the Elite 4s and their champions to get to like a super powerful group of trainers ruled over by a single champion.
#21
I want X & Y to be different than the main goal being become the world Champion. I want to feel compelled to play, rather than forced.

It has potential.
#22

English game demo for who ever wants some spoilers.
#23
i love the way the moves look in pokemon x and y
#24
Can't wait for this game, I pre-ordered both of them.
#25
i cant wait to play this
#26
eh, it's just a game.
i'm not buying it, but if one of my kiddie cousins decides to buy the console
and the games themselves, I'm def stealing them for a couple of hours
#27
12 days till the release.
#28
I watched smo play in on twitch. It looks really really good, and im temped to buy it. I like the whole, you can dress up your character thing.
Its also cool that they mixed old pokemons with new ones. Im not sure if all are in the game, but I saw Pikachu, weedle, caterpie and torchik. So I guess there are even more.
#29
its a good game
also fuq uk for releasing it early
#30
It's awesome. Gameplay is a bit different but it feels the same but is fresh. The pacing is perfect.
#31
EXP share makes everything pretty easy. I'm 18 hours in and on my way to getting the 8th badge.
#32
Stapled wrote:
EXP share makes everything pretty easy. I'm 18 hours in and on my way to getting the 8th badge.


i'm 13 hours in and at 3 badges....
hopefully i just left it on, on accident.......
#33
Use wrote:
i'm 13 hours in and at 3 badges....
hopefully i just left it on, on accident.......


Well I've beat the Pokemon League now and it took me 24:08. My brother has 23:59 and 6 badges. I pretty rushed the whole game and talked to no one.
#34
Stapled wrote:
I pretty rushed the whole game and talked to no one.
ohhh
#35
I kind of want to get Pokemon Y because the legendary one looks badass, but first I have to obtain a 3DS.
#36
Stapled wrote:
Well I've beat the Pokemon League now and it took me 24:08. My brother has 23:59 and 6 badges. I pretty rushed the whole game and talked to no one.


Dude you get so much free shit from talking to NCPs. It's ridiculous. There is a pretty by end game as I understand it so that should be fun. I am only to the third gym myself but I have little time invested so far, not more than 8 hours.
#37
I'm at 31 hours and just got my 4th gym badge. Though that's probably completely because I spent too much time breeding pokemon, trading, and playing the mini games. Lol
#38
CL0V3R wrote:
I'm at 31 hours and just got my 4th gym badge. Though that's probably completely because I spent too much time breeding pokemon, trading, and playing the mini games. Lol

I save all that stuff for post-game.
#39
CL0V3R wrote:
I'm at 31 hours and just got my 4th gym badge. Though that's probably completely because I spent too much time breeding pokemon, trading, and playing the mini games. Lol


Basically what I do post game. Got to gets all the sweet Pokemon I like.
Who'd everyone pick as a starter?
#40
I picked froakie
and then I picked bulbasaur for the second one because that was my first pokemon ever <3